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		<title>Hyper-V More Stable, Just as Mature as VMware vSphere?</title>
		<link>http://www.vcritical.com/2010/01/hyper-v-more-stable-just-as-mature-as-vmware-vsphere/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 23:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric Gray</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Virtualizationism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[ESX]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Hyper-V]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[live migration]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[memory overcommit]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Microsoft Virtualization publishes an embarrassing guest post refuting vSphere advantages, doing more harm than good.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read a <em>fascinating </em>article on the <a href="http://blogs.technet.com/virtualization/archive/2010/01/18/Guest-post_3A00_-_2200_Setting-the-Record-Straight-_2D00_-9-Reasons-Why-Hyper_2D00_V-is-a-Great-Choice-for-Enterprises_2200_.aspx" target="_blank">Microsoft Virtualization blog</a> from a special guest poster responding to the recent <a href="http://www.vcritical.com/2009/12/informationweek-hyper-v-not-for-enterprise/">InformationWeek </a>article that cited 9 reasons Hyper-V is not ready for the Enterprise.</p>
<p>The author worked extra hard to refute all 9 points &#8212; but I do admit being somewhat distracted by the gratuitous use of <strong>VMWare</strong> throughout.  Evidently, proofreading &#8212; unlike immeasurable technology and services discounts &#8212; is not one of the benefits extended to guest posters these days, which is a shame.</p>
<p>The Microsoft Virtualization MVP tries to use most of the pages from the playbook, such as <a href="http://www.vcritical.com/2010/01/the-truth-about-hyper-v-memory-overcommit/">memory overcommit FUD</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Relying on a host to overcommit memory to support failover hosts is potentially dangerous and incorrect oversubscription leads to all VMs suffering from performance.</p></blockquote>
<p>Have <em>you </em>ever had a VM suffer from performance?  I have, and believe me &#8212; it&#8217;s not pleasant.</p>
<p>But here is a familiar line:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230; I would never over commit my VM hosts in production.</p></blockquote>
<p>Where have we heard that before?   I almost forgot to mention that this guest poster is none other than Chris Steffen &#8212; the star of that now-infamous <a href="http://www.cio.com/article/439487/Is_One_of_VMware_s_Best_Features_a_Really_Bad_Idea_" target="_blank">CIO Magazine article</a> who once called VMotion a &#8220;gimmick&#8221; and said:<span id="more-2251"></span></p>
<blockquote><p>I don&#8217;t know what kind of environment other than QA or development, or in a staging environment you&#8217;d want to do [live migration], but it&#8217;s not going to be in any production environment I&#8217;m responsible for; it&#8217;s not going to be any environment dependent on any kind of SLA or performance requirements. The justification for the inherent risk just isn&#8217;t there.</p></blockquote>
<p>But what does Mr. Steffen say now that Hyper-V <strong>has </strong><a href="http://www.vcritical.com/tag/live-migration/">Live Migration</a>?  About what you&#8217;d expect &#8212; and more:</p>
<blockquote><p>Also keep in mind that using the System Center suite, the Microsoft solution can Live Migrate VMs to other hosts due to situations that VMware servers cannot even monitor, such as CPU Power, Power Supply Failures, and Fibre Channel congestion.</p></blockquote>
<p>There are a number of other gems in this <em>convincing </em>piece.  Did you know:</p>
<ul>
<li>Hyper-V is more stable than and at least as secure as VMWare [sic]</li>
<li>vSphere is just as new as Hyper-V</li>
</ul>
<p>Yep, there is a full-day supply of Kool-Aid in that guest post.</p>
<p>Nice work, Microsoft Virtualization team.  I&#8217;m not so sure this sort of thing helps your cause &#8212; please keep it up.</p>


<p>Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.vcritical.com/2010/01/the-truth-about-hyper-v-memory-overcommit/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: The Truth About Hyper-V Memory Overcommit'>The Truth About Hyper-V Memory Overcommit</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.vcritical.com/2009/07/on-quick-storage-migration-in-r2/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: On Quick Storage Migration in R2'>On Quick Storage Migration in R2</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.vcritical.com/2010/02/hello-dynamic-memory/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Hello Dynamic Memory?'>Hello Dynamic Memory?</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.vcritical.com/2008/10/how-to-see-if-quick-migration-is-right-for-your-workload/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: How to see if Quick Migration is right for your workload'>How to see if Quick Migration is right for your workload</a></li>
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		<title>SCVMM/PRO Complexity: High</title>
		<link>http://www.vcritical.com/2009/11/scvmmpro-complexity-high/</link>
		<comments>http://www.vcritical.com/2009/11/scvmmpro-complexity-high/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric Gray</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Virtualizationism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Hyper-V]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[live migration]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[PRO Tips]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[SCOM]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[SCVMM]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[According to Microsoft's own documentation, integrating SCOM with SCVMM adds high complexity and additional cost to your virtualization environment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About a year ago, I wrote about the <a href="http://www.vcritical.com/2008/11/pro-tips-pros-only-please/">complex requirements for enabling PRO Tips</a> in System Center Virtual Machine Manager 2008 (SCVMM).  That was the previous release &#8212; what has changed now that SCVMM 2008 R2 is available?</p>
<p><strong>Not much.</strong></p>
<h2>First Things First</h2>
<p>Before you can use PRO to Live Migrate virtual machines between hosts (which is sort of the whole point), you need to first configure Hyper-V, failover clustering, and Cluster Shared Volumes &#8212; something eWeek found to be <a href="http://www.vcritical.com/2009/10/live-migration-significantly-more-complicated/">significantly more complicated</a> than VMware ESX.</p>
<p>After Hyper-V and Live Migration are up and running, the next step is to install SCVMM 2008 R2 so you can integrate it with your System Center Operations Manager 2007 (SCOM) environment.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s that?  You don&#8217;t have SCOM deployed?  Go ahead and set it up.  Come back in a few days when you&#8217;re ready to go to the next step.</p>
<h2>Integration Time</h2>
<p>After your environment has both SCVMM and SCOM up and running, it&#8217;s integration time! If you have ever thought that the <em>next-next-finish</em> Microsoft wizards were boring, then this is the task for you.  You&#8217;ll get a chance to make configuration changes to various systems and possibly even Active Directory &#8212; haven&#8217;t you always wanted to learn about the SetSPN utility anyway?</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t let me spoil the excitement by giving away the ending &#8212; pick up your own copy of the 34-page integration guide and experience the thrill for yourself.<span id="more-1889"></span></p>
<p><img class="size-full wp-image-1890 alignnone" title="SCVMM-SCOM integration guide" src="http://www.vcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/SCVMM-SCOM-integration-guide.png" alt="SCVMM-SCOM integration guide" width="446" height="303" /></p>
<h2>Second Opinion</h2>
<p>Some of you are probably thinking that this is an exaggeration, it can&#8217;t be all that bad.  Let&#8217;s take a look from another perspective, presented in the Infrastructure Planning and Design (<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&amp;FamilyID=ad3921fb-8224-4681-9064-075fdf042b0c" target="_blank">IPD</a>) guide for SCVMM 2008 R2:</p>
<p><img class="size-full wp-image-1891 alignnone" title="IPD-SCOM integration complexity" src="http://www.vcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/IPD-SCOM-integration-complexity.png" alt="IPD-SCOM integration complexity" width="456" height="341" /></p>
<p>As you can see from the above excerpt, integrating SCVMM with SCOM clearly<strong> increases the time, effort, and complexity</strong> of your virtualization deployment.  And don&#8217;t forget that SCOM is required for <a href="http://www.vcritical.com/2009/10/hyper-v-administrators-exhibit-advanced-memory-skills/">monitoring</a> your Hyper-V infrastructure, too.</p>
<p>Unlike the Microsoft virtualization conglomeration, VMware DRS is an integral part of vCenter Server &#8212; purpose-built for virtualization.  Talk about <a href="http://www.vcritical.com/2009/11/layers-and-layers-of-fud/">additional layers</a>&#8230;</p>


<p>Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.vcritical.com/2008/11/pro-tips-pros-only-please/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: PRO Tips: pros only, please'>PRO Tips: pros only, please</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.vcritical.com/2008/11/two-thousand/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Two thousand?'>Two thousand?</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.vcritical.com/2009/04/save-14970-on-vmware-esx-management/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Save $14,970 on VMware ESX management'>Save $14,970 on VMware ESX management</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.vcritical.com/2009/03/managing-vi3-with-scvmm-considered-harmful/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Managing VI3 with SCVMM considered harmful'>Managing VI3 with SCVMM considered harmful</a></li>
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		<title>Live Migration &#8220;significantly more complicated&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://www.vcritical.com/2009/10/live-migration-significantly-more-complicated/</link>
		<comments>http://www.vcritical.com/2009/10/live-migration-significantly-more-complicated/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric Gray</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Virtualizationism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[CSV]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[live migration]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Windows Server 2008 R2]]></category>

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		<description><![CDATA[Because of the extra configuration -- and tools -- needed to deploy a complete Hyper-V R2 solution, eWeek concludes that VMware ESX/VMotion is simpler than Live Migration.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It can be difficult to set up a complete Hyper-V environment.  There are <a href="http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/single-pane-of-glass-hyper-v-edition/" target="_blank">a lot of user interfaces</a> needed to perform the various configuration tasks &#8212; especially during initial deployment.  It&#8217;s great to see that the mainstream technology media has arrived at the same conclusion.</p>
<p>Jason Brooks, Executive Editor at eWeek, <a href="http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Windows/REVIEW-Windows-Server-2008-R2-Serves-As-Virtualization-Windows-7-Foundation-444663/1/" target="_blank">recently reviewed Windows Server 2008 R2</a> and had the following to say about Live Migration and <a href="http://www.vcritical.com/2009/09/hands-off-that-csv/" target="_blank">Cluster Shared Volumes (CSV)</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Live Migration was very easy to use, but I found the process of configuring and using Live Migration in Windows Server 2008 R2 significantly more complicated than with VMware ESX server and VirtualCenter. In contrast to VMware&#8217;s product, where all tasks are gathered together in a purpose-built interface, the tasks required to configure Cluster Shared Volumes in Windows Server involve visits to various existing and new Windows utilities.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s true.  The Microsoft virtualization solution is a conglomeration, and configuring all of the various layers, roles, and features on top of the general-purpose Windows OS <em>is</em> complicated.</p>
<p>You may need Windows to run parts of your business, but that doesn&#8217;t mean you need Hyper-V.  Take control of Windows &#8212; by running it on rock-solid, purpose-built, enterprise-class VMware vSphere &#8212; before it takes control of you.</p>
<p><strong>Simplify, don&#8217;t complexify.</strong></p>


<p>Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.vcritical.com/2009/11/scvmmpro-complexity-high/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: SCVMM/PRO Complexity: High'>SCVMM/PRO Complexity: High</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.vcritical.com/2009/09/hands-off-that-csv/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Hands off that CSV!'>Hands off that CSV!</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.vcritical.com/2009/12/best-of-2009/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Best of 2009'>Best of 2009</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.vcritical.com/2009/10/hyper-v-console-disconnects-during-live-migration/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Hyper-V Console Disconnects During Live Migration'>Hyper-V Console Disconnects During Live Migration</a></li>
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		<title>Hyper-V Console Disconnects During Live Migration</title>
		<link>http://www.vcritical.com/2009/10/hyper-v-console-disconnects-during-live-migration/</link>
		<comments>http://www.vcritical.com/2009/10/hyper-v-console-disconnects-during-live-migration/#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eric Gray</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Virtualizationism]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[Hyper-V]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[PRO Tips]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[When a Hyper-V virtual machine console is connected and a live migration is initiated -- automatically with PRO Tips or manually -- the remote client disconnects.  The situation must be resolved manually by the administrator, unlike VMware ESX, which seamlessly migrates remote console connections during VMotion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="size-full wp-image-1811 alignleft" title="SCVMM Connect to Virtual Machine" src="http://www.vcritical.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/connect-to-virtual-machine.png" alt="SCVMM Connect to Virtual Machine" width="191" height="105" />Previously I showed how the architecture behind VMware vSphere clustering is so robust that even a <a href="http://www.vcritical.com/2009/10/vsphere-console-stays-connected-during-vmotion/">remote virtual machine console remains connected</a> as a VM migrates with VMotion from one host to another.  VMware vSphere is designed from the ground up as an integrated virtualization solution &#8212; cleanly abstracting virtual machine operations from the underlying aggregate pool of physical hardware.</p>
<p>Microsoft Hyper-V R2 derives HA clustering capabilities and Live Migration from the additional Windows Failover Clustering layer that can be added to the hypervisor.  With all that <em>integration</em>, you might think a remote console connection would seamlessly <em>fail over</em> along with the VM during a Live Migration.</p>
<p><strong>Sorry, not in this release.</strong> Is it an omission, or just a bug?  Time will tell.</p>
<p>Now that System Center Virtual Machine Manger 2008 R2 (SCVMM) PRO tips can be used to automate Live Migration &#8212; if it is integrated with System Center Operations Manger 2007 (SCOM), that is &#8212; administrators connected to a remote VM console may find themselves suddenly cut off.</p>
<p><strong>See it in action in this short video:</strong></p>
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<p><span id="more-1810"></span><br />
Oh, sure it&#8217;s not hard to go back into SCVMM, find the VM, and reconnect &#8212; but should you have to do that manually?  VM remote consoles may not be needed for day-to-day administrative tasks, but is that reasonable justification to ignore usability and integration?</p>
<p>Because the Microsoft Virtualization solution is a conglomeration of various components &#8212; Windows Server, hypervisor role, Failover Clustering, SCVMM, SCOM, etc. &#8212; it is much more difficult to provide a seamless experience.  <strong>This remote console issue is really just an indicator.</strong></p>


<p>Related posts:<ol><li><a href='http://www.vcritical.com/2009/11/scvmmpro-complexity-high/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: SCVMM/PRO Complexity: High'>SCVMM/PRO Complexity: High</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.vcritical.com/2009/06/choose-any-two-hyper-v-ha-linux/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: Choose any two: Hyper-V, HA, Linux'>Choose any two: Hyper-V, HA, Linux</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.vcritical.com/2009/10/vsphere-console-stays-connected-during-vmotion/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: vSphere Console Stays Connected During VMotion'>vSphere Console Stays Connected During VMotion</a></li>
<li><a href='http://www.vcritical.com/2008/11/pro-tips-pros-only-please/' rel='bookmark' title='Permanent Link: PRO Tips: pros only, please'>PRO Tips: pros only, please</a></li>
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