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	<title>Comments on: Hyper-V More Stable, Just as Mature as VMware vSphere?</title>
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		<title>By: Justin J</title>
		<link>http://www.vcritical.com/2010/01/hyper-v-more-stable-just-as-mature-as-vmware-vsphere/#comment-11487</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 13:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would agree that VMware licensing delivers value far outweighing its price, but at the end of the day you simply need to decide what is enough to meet your deliverables.  Hyper-V can do that for many at far less cost.  For myself who has to wear many hats in the datacenter perhaps the biggest draw to moving to hyper-v is that it is one less skill I have keep on top of.  MS Clustering will always be around with SQL and hyper-v is very intuitive if you are a microsoft shop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree that VMware licensing delivers value far outweighing its price, but at the end of the day you simply need to decide what is enough to meet your deliverables.  Hyper-V can do that for many at far less cost.  For myself who has to wear many hats in the datacenter perhaps the biggest draw to moving to hyper-v is that it is one less skill I have keep on top of.  MS Clustering will always be around with SQL and hyper-v is very intuitive if you are a microsoft shop.</p>
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		<title>By: Massimo Re Ferre'</title>
		<link>http://www.vcritical.com/2010/01/hyper-v-more-stable-just-as-mature-as-vmware-vsphere/#comment-11485</link>
		<dc:creator>Massimo Re Ferre'</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 23:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; VMware licensing has been equal to or more than the cost of host it is going on

Admittedly I am biased as I work for VMware. However I spent the last 10 years working as a virtualization architect with the IBM Systems x and Bladecenter team and I can certainly testify that, while vSphere may cost as much as the hardware, the value delivered is 4x (that of the hardware). 

Not meant to convince you on the debate in subject, just trying to give you an additional weapon to get an (additional) 50% discount from your OEM.

Massimo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; VMware licensing has been equal to or more than the cost of host it is going on</p>
<p>Admittedly I am biased as I work for VMware. However I spent the last 10 years working as a virtualization architect with the IBM Systems x and Bladecenter team and I can certainly testify that, while vSphere may cost as much as the hardware, the value delivered is 4x (that of the hardware). </p>
<p>Not meant to convince you on the debate in subject, just trying to give you an additional weapon to get an (additional) 50% discount from your OEM.</p>
<p>Massimo.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin J</title>
		<link>http://www.vcritical.com/2010/01/hyper-v-more-stable-just-as-mature-as-vmware-vsphere/#comment-11484</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 21:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I for one am currently migrating from Vmware to Hyper-V.  
Yes I agree ESX is better and I will miss the filesystem and features but
none of articles have a clue about cost for many customers. 
Nobody in large enterprise pays retail for Microsoft products.  
I can buy 2008 datacenter for under $600, which includes licensing for all my microsoft virtual machines.  Vmware costs me 2 grand plus a support agreement.  So far VMware licensing has been equal to or more than the cost of host it is going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I for one am currently migrating from Vmware to Hyper-V.<br />
Yes I agree ESX is better and I will miss the filesystem and features but<br />
none of articles have a clue about cost for many customers.<br />
Nobody in large enterprise pays retail for Microsoft products.<br />
I can buy 2008 datacenter for under $600, which includes licensing for all my microsoft virtual machines.  Vmware costs me 2 grand plus a support agreement.  So far VMware licensing has been equal to or more than the cost of host it is going on.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad King</title>
		<link>http://www.vcritical.com/2010/01/hyper-v-more-stable-just-as-mature-as-vmware-vsphere/#comment-11163</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Sep 2010 17:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is too funny... Sounds like the virtualization initiative in that company is doing well... 20 racks down to 3 - wow.  We took our Distribution Centers from five racks to 3 servers...lol. times that by 227 and that is a huge amount of savings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is too funny&#8230; Sounds like the virtualization initiative in that company is doing well&#8230; 20 racks down to 3 &#8211; wow.  We took our Distribution Centers from five racks to 3 servers&#8230;lol. times that by 227 and that is a huge amount of savings.</p>
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		<title>By: Microsoft Hypervisor and OS Support Conflict of Interest &#8211; Mark Vaughn&#39;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.vcritical.com/2010/01/hyper-v-more-stable-just-as-mature-as-vmware-vsphere/#comment-10708</link>
		<dc:creator>Microsoft Hypervisor and OS Support Conflict of Interest &#8211; Mark Vaughn&#39;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 19:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that inspired a response by Chris Steffen on the Microsoft Virtualization Team Blog. From there, Eric Gray added his thoughts and then Nicholas Weaver did a great write-up of his thoughts on the topic. At this point, Ben [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that inspired a response by Chris Steffen on the Microsoft Virtualization Team Blog. From there, Eric Gray added his thoughts and then Nicholas Weaver did a great write-up of his thoughts on the topic. At this point, Ben [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anton Zhbankov</title>
		<link>http://www.vcritical.com/2010/01/hyper-v-more-stable-just-as-mature-as-vmware-vsphere/#comment-9615</link>
		<dc:creator>Anton Zhbankov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And one of the technical architects should make career in marketing instead of IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And one of the technical architects should make career in marketing instead of IT.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave O.</title>
		<link>http://www.vcritical.com/2010/01/hyper-v-more-stable-just-as-mature-as-vmware-vsphere/#comment-9614</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same parent company...different business units.

http://www.kroll.com/contact/

Loveland (Kroll Factual Data)
5200 Hahns Peak Drive
Loveland, Colorado 80538
United States
Toll Free: 800-929-3400
Phone: 970-663-5700
Fax: 970-663-7533

Los Angeles (Kroll Ontrack)
18350 Mt. Langely Street
Suite 140
Fountain Valley, California 92708
United States
Toll Free: 800-872-2599
Phone: 714-641-0530
Fax: 714-641-1543</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same parent company&#8230;different business units.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kroll.com/contact/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kroll.com/contact/</a></p>
<p>Loveland (Kroll Factual Data)<br />
5200 Hahns Peak Drive<br />
Loveland, Colorado 80538<br />
United States<br />
Toll Free: 800-929-3400<br />
Phone: 970-663-5700<br />
Fax: 970-663-7533</p>
<p>Los Angeles (Kroll Ontrack)<br />
18350 Mt. Langely Street<br />
Suite 140<br />
Fountain Valley, California 92708<br />
United States<br />
Toll Free: 800-872-2599<br />
Phone: 714-641-0530<br />
Fax: 714-641-1543</p>
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		<title>By: Anton Zhbankov</title>
		<link>http://www.vcritical.com/2010/01/hyper-v-more-stable-just-as-mature-as-vmware-vsphere/#comment-9613</link>
		<dc:creator>Anton Zhbankov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 17:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update: Kroll Factual Data and Kroll Ontrack are different companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update: Kroll Factual Data and Kroll Ontrack are different companies.</p>
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		<title>By: Anton Zhbankov</title>
		<link>http://www.vcritical.com/2010/01/hyper-v-more-stable-just-as-mature-as-vmware-vsphere/#comment-9608</link>
		<dc:creator>Anton Zhbankov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 07:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to mr. Steffen&#039;s words Kroll is a big  Hyper-V shop:
http://blogs.technet.com/virtualization/archive/2009/04/20/kroll-factual-data-85-virtualized-30-1-vm-density.aspx

How can it be that two technical architects working in the same company are deploying two different solutions at the very same time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to mr. Steffen&#8217;s words Kroll is a big  Hyper-V shop:<br />
<a href="http://blogs.technet.com/virtualization/archive/2009/04/20/kroll-factual-data-85-virtualized-30-1-vm-density.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.technet.com/virtualization/archive/2009/04/20/kroll-factual-data-85-virtualized-30-1-vm-density.aspx</a></p>
<p>How can it be that two technical architects working in the same company are deploying two different solutions at the very same time?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave O.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or to put your comment another way, Anton:

One hand *does* know what they are doing...it&#039;s the other hand that has no clue! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or to put your comment another way, Anton:</p>
<p>One hand *does* know what they are doing&#8230;it&#8217;s the other hand that has no clue! <img src='http://www.vcritical.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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