Comments on: Live Migration “significantly more complicated”

By: Miquel Àngel

Miquel Àngel — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:47:53 +0000

I’M setting up a hyper-v cluster and doesn’t seem so dificult if you know the windows environment.
@Yusuf Ozturk the hyper-v R2 it’s a server with one only role, the hypervisor

By: Comparison Table of VMware vSphere Versus Server 2008 R2 Hyper-V | VM /ETC

Comparison Table of VMware vSphere Versus Server 2008 R2 Hyper-V | VM /ETC — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 04:50:53 +0000

[...] implementation value / consideration / cost. Storage, networking, infrastructure requirements, complexity, third party support (back up and management products), and vendor support / community are all real [...]

By: NiTRo

NiTRo — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:01:05 +0000

Microsoft seams to use money for marketing, not for making their product better Apple & VMware do both for example…

By: Yusuf Ozturk

Yusuf Ozturk — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 20:53:36 +0000

Yes, we have that problem too We have Dell M610 servers, applied hotfix, there is no problem right now but that hotfix doesn’t correct issues well. I know and I always say VMware is the best product for virtualization but I believe it will change. Microsoft has more depth and more money. A few years later, Microsoft will overtake VMware. Microsoft has a bigger ecosystem (certified partners, partners, money, money..) and that breaks the balance.

If Google buys EMC or VMWare today, many interesting things could be happen because that destroys all plans and roadmap of Microsoft.

By: NiTRo

NiTRo — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:37:36 +0000

open your eyes, we are not living in the world where MS beats VMware : http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/09/11/28/1723257/Microsoft-Advice-Against-Nehalem-Xeons-Snuffed-Out

By: Yusuf Ozturk

Yusuf Ozturk — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 17:24:43 +0000

No, I didn’t mean that but you have a great imagination

By: NiTRo

NiTRo — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:24:05 +0000

@Yusuf Ozturk
You mean Hyper-V is the Death Star of the Microsoft Empire ?

By: Yusuf Ozturk

Yusuf Ozturk — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:19:12 +0000

@Eric Gray and rbrambley
Windows Server 2008 is a server product, not only virtualization software. That means you can use it as a Web Server, File Server, Virtualization Solution or even you can use it for playing pc games. I’m setting up new CSV nodes almost everyday due to my job. It takes 5 minutes for iscsi, 5 minutes for mpio, 10 minutes for cluster service and hyper-v role with a few restarts maybe. Setting up a system is not a problem for users. It’s a one time job which gives you great pleasure. I always loved creating and working on new things.

Microsoft needs few years to beat Vmware. But then MS will be leader in the market. Eric Gray also realized that and fears because he is a fan of Vmware. But Yoda always says “Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.” I mean please don’t fear from Hyper-V, it only gives you suffer

By: SCVMM requires complex integration with SCOM for full functionality | VCritical

Tue, 10 Nov 2009 11:12:50 +0000

[...] Hyper-V, failover clustering, and Cluster Shared Volumes — something eWeek found to be significantly more complicated than VMware [...]

By: ptrdnls

ptrdnls — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:45:25 +0000

Is this another sales job? Greenfield? for small businesses maybe, but the organizations who have the need (and can spend the money) and will spend it to reduce opex, most likely already have AD in their environment.

AT this juncture there is no value in bashing other VM solutions. If it was hard for you…fine. VMware was hard for us because the problem we were trying to solve was MS server sprawl. The team was familiar with MS technologies therefore easier (integration with installed technologies (AD, SCOM)) and cheaper (labor, lower learning curve;quicker time to value)

From our business prospective, Hyper -V was a better fit and is good enough (“we only pay for what we use”) Does that make VMware a worse product? Absolutely not. In fact we are learning quite a bit from our peers who are using VMware to consolidate their UNIX environment.

That being said, can someone help us on how to scale a storage environment once we have virtualized the I/O? We have increased the VM denisity (Quad Cores, more memory) and are using HP’s Virtual Connect switch to virtulize I/O but our Clariion Array is limited to how much storage it can support and we have to bring everything down each time we add storage.

Thoughts?