Comments on: Single Pane of Glass — Hyper-V Edition http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/single-pane-of-glass-hyper-v-edition/ Informed Virtualization Criticism Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:14:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Eric Gray http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/single-pane-of-glass-hyper-v-edition/#comment-11171 Eric Gray Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:12:27 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=1339#comment-11171 Thanks, glad you liked it. I'm not surprised it takes your crew much longer to set up Hyper-V POC, it is just much more complex. Thanks, glad you liked it. I’m not surprised it takes your crew much longer to set up Hyper-V POC, it is just much more complex.

]]> By: Eiad Al-Aqqad http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/single-pane-of-glass-hyper-v-edition/#comment-11167 Eiad Al-Aqqad Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:25:44 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=1339#comment-11167 Hi Eric, Great post as usual. What I have really loved here how you made Microsoft shoot them self in the foot and admit that they have a horrible setup complication. one year after your post and they still suffer the same setup complexity. I see it every where that my company go to conduct a POC of both products. Our VMware team can close a POC in two days, where our Hyper-V team take a minimum of a week. This has been repeated and even when Microsoft is directly involved in the POC it does not shorten the gap much. Regards, Eiad Al-Aqqad http://www.VirtualizationTeam.com Hi Eric,

Great post as usual. What I have really loved here how you made Microsoft shoot them self in the foot and admit that they have a horrible setup complication. one year after your post and they still suffer the same setup complexity. I see it every where that my company go to conduct a POC of both products. Our VMware team can close a POC in two days, where our Hyper-V team take a minimum of a week. This has been repeated and even when Microsoft is directly involved in the POC it does not shorten the gap much.

Regards,
Eiad Al-Aqqad
http://www.VirtualizationTeam.com

]]> By: Who’s Using Citrix Essentials for Hyper-V? « vTeardown http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/single-pane-of-glass-hyper-v-edition/#comment-9712 Who’s Using Citrix Essentials for Hyper-V? « vTeardown Mon, 01 Mar 2010 14:20:16 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=1339#comment-9712 [...] Essentials for Hyper-V? If you’re a Hyper-V administrator, don’t you already have tons of management applications to deal with?  Having another application to manage your back-end storage would just add to the complexity. If [...] [...] Essentials for Hyper-V? If you’re a Hyper-V administrator, don’t you already have tons of management applications to deal with?  Having another application to manage your back-end storage would just add to the complexity. If [...]

]]> By: eWeek Finds Hyper-V Live Migration Significantly More Complicated than VMware VMotion | VCritical http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/single-pane-of-glass-hyper-v-edition/#comment-8434 eWeek Finds Hyper-V Live Migration Significantly More Complicated than VMware VMotion | VCritical Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:40:10 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=1339#comment-8434 [...] can be difficult to set up a complete Hyper-V environment.  There are a lot of user interfaces needed to perform the various configuration tasks — especially during initial deployment.  [...] [...] can be difficult to set up a complete Hyper-V environment.  There are a lot of user interfaces needed to perform the various configuration tasks — especially during initial deployment.  [...]

]]> By: Marcel http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/single-pane-of-glass-hyper-v-edition/#comment-7449 Marcel Mon, 31 Aug 2009 09:38:56 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=1339#comment-7449 Eric, don't underestimate the power of the software bundle. If a company has SA in place (Microsoft Software Assurance), then the package of all the System Center products is pretty cheap. There's a System Center Essentials bundle (small companies) as well as a System Center Enterprise option (large environments). It becomes a hard sell if you're already paying for this and want to use or keep on using VMware products. I agree that the large set of tools required and the additional requirements (clustering, Windows domain membership for your hypervisor) can and will be a pain. It also requires some very good IT people to setup properly. But the decision makers don't care about that, they only look at their spreadsheets. And the IT guy has to suffer. I recently talked to someone who hinted at this. He got some students for a SCOM course who have been going through this. Eric, don’t underestimate the power of the software bundle. If a company has SA in place (Microsoft Software Assurance), then the package of all the System Center products is pretty cheap. There’s a System Center Essentials bundle (small companies) as well as a System Center Enterprise option (large environments).

It becomes a hard sell if you’re already paying for this and want to use or keep on using VMware products.

I agree that the large set of tools required and the additional requirements (clustering, Windows domain membership for your hypervisor) can and will be a pain. It also requires some very good IT people to setup properly.

But the decision makers don’t care about that, they only look at their spreadsheets. And the IT guy has to suffer. I recently talked to someone who hinted at this. He got some students for a SCOM course who have been going through this.

]]> By: Jason Soled http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/single-pane-of-glass-hyper-v-edition/#comment-7426 Jason Soled Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:52:51 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=1339#comment-7426 If you want to use SCOM 2007 and do some management and monitoring of your VMware environment, ditch the SCVMM and go with the nWorks Management Pack for VMware (nWorks now part of Veeam Software). http://www.veeam.com/vmware-microsoft-esx-monitoring.html If you want to use SCOM 2007 and do some management and monitoring of your VMware environment, ditch the SCVMM and go with the nWorks Management Pack for VMware (nWorks now part of Veeam Software). http://www.veeam.com/vmware-microsoft-esx-monitoring.html

]]> By: Eric Gray http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/single-pane-of-glass-hyper-v-edition/#comment-7414 Eric Gray Fri, 28 Aug 2009 04:10:05 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=1339#comment-7414 Some people <em>will</em> choose Hyper-V. Looks like you are one of them. Some people will choose Hyper-V. Looks like you are one of them.

]]> By: Low cost with high SLA http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/single-pane-of-glass-hyper-v-edition/#comment-7412 Low cost with high SLA Fri, 28 Aug 2009 03:22:26 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=1339#comment-7412 Wow, clearly an exaggeration just to make a point for the author's favorite team and a waste of our time. If I already own hundreds of copies of Windows Server 2008 R2 then I have hundreds of copies of a hypervisor at my disposal. Why should I continue to direct my shrinking budget on VMware when I can leverage what I already own and it is good enough to meet my needs? Wow, clearly an exaggeration just to make a point for the author’s favorite team and a waste of our time.

If I already own hundreds of copies of Windows Server 2008 R2 then I have hundreds of copies of a hypervisor at my disposal. Why should I continue to direct my shrinking budget on VMware when I can leverage what I already own and it is good enough to meet my needs?

]]> By: Connie http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/single-pane-of-glass-hyper-v-edition/#comment-7344 Connie Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:48:02 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=1339#comment-7344 I am curious, what does mister Muglia have to say about your findings? I am curious, what does mister Muglia have to say about your findings?

]]> By: Fernando http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/single-pane-of-glass-hyper-v-edition/#comment-7265 Fernando Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:50:11 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=1339#comment-7265 Beautiful re-definition of single pane of glass :-) I can't stop laughing on the picture !!! Beautiful re-definition of single pane of glass :-)
I can’t stop laughing on the picture !!!

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