Comments on: Hyper-V Market Share Lies http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/hyper-v-market-share-lies/ Informed Virtualization Criticism Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:25:13 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Eric Gray http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/hyper-v-market-share-lies/#comment-7178 Eric Gray Thu, 06 Aug 2009 04:00:46 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=1326#comment-7178 David, I never thought of that. Thanks for the idea -- I'll submit it via the VMware Employee Suggestion Program(tm) right away. Eric David,

I never thought of that. Thanks for the idea — I’ll submit it via the VMware Employee Suggestion Program(tm) right away.

Eric

]]> By: David Justice http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/hyper-v-market-share-lies/#comment-7172 David Justice Wed, 05 Aug 2009 20:12:24 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=1326#comment-7172 Maybe VMware should add this to their EULA. They could prevent others from talking about them and/or giving any numbers at all. Sounds about par for the course with VMware. Maybe VMware should add this to their EULA. They could prevent others from talking about them and/or giving any numbers at all. Sounds about par for the course with VMware.

]]> By: Tim Stephan http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/hyper-v-market-share-lies/#comment-7171 Tim Stephan Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:02:50 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=1326#comment-7171 Funny that Kevin Turner provides no explanation as to 1) How the Virtualization market is defined - Server Only? Free vs. Enterprise? Test/Dev Production? and 2) How share is defined or calculated - Revenue? Deployments? Usage? Oh and who, what was the sample? Microsoft PR - probably scrambling - has come back and said that Muglia's claims at least were based on "Internal Data" http://bit.ly/hdMdZ - yeah and based on "Internal Data" I am a lot of things - Great Golfer, Expert Chef, Great Dancer, Charming, Witty - none of which are probably true :) Funny that Kevin Turner provides no explanation as to 1) How the Virtualization market is defined – Server Only? Free vs. Enterprise? Test/Dev Production? and 2) How share is defined or calculated – Revenue? Deployments? Usage? Oh and who, what was the sample?

Microsoft PR – probably scrambling – has come back and said that Muglia’s claims at least were based on “Internal Data” http://bit.ly/hdMdZ – yeah and based on “Internal Data” I am a lot of things – Great Golfer, Expert Chef, Great Dancer, Charming, Witty – none of which are probably true :)

]]> By: Fernando http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/hyper-v-market-share-lies/#comment-7159 Fernando Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:42:25 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=1326#comment-7159 Joe, I think they know pretty well what they are doing. They know for sure most people will immediately identify it as bullshit, but many uninformed people will actually believe it. A more than perfect fit for FUD. Joe,

I think they know pretty well what they are doing. They know for sure most people will immediately identify it as bullshit, but many uninformed people will actually believe it.

A more than perfect fit for FUD.

]]> By: Eric Gray http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/hyper-v-market-share-lies/#comment-7156 Eric Gray Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:38:53 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=1326#comment-7156 Wil, that is one way of looking at it, but I really think they intended to say 0-24 percent of the entire market in half a year. Joe, they think we are. Wil, that is one way of looking at it, but I really think they intended to say 0-24 percent of the entire market in half a year.

Joe, they think we are.

]]> By: Joe http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/hyper-v-market-share-lies/#comment-7155 Joe Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:24:16 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=1326#comment-7155 You have to wonder are they really that stupid or do they think we are? You have to wonder are they really that stupid or do they think we are?

]]> By: Wil van Antwerpen http://www.vcritical.com/2009/08/hyper-v-market-share-lies/#comment-7150 Wil van Antwerpen Tue, 04 Aug 2009 17:38:18 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=1326#comment-7150 Remember lies and statistics? Using statistics, you can make numbers sound relevant even when they are not. If they gain 24 percent (that's what they mean with points not?) on a 5 percent market share then they are now having 6.2 percent. The 5 percent example is made up as I don't know how high their claimed market share is. After all they don't mention a real number in the article.... Now that doesn't sound spectacular at all does it? It is much better to say that you've managed to grow your market by 24 percent, even when it only means and increased number of downloads of the OS that provides the virtualisation role. -- Wil Remember lies and statistics?
Using statistics, you can make numbers sound relevant even when they are not.

If they gain 24 percent (that’s what they mean with points not?) on a 5 percent market share then they are now having 6.2 percent. The 5 percent example is made up as I don’t know how high their claimed market share is. After all they don’t mention a real number in the article….

Now that doesn’t sound spectacular at all does it? It is much better to say that you’ve managed to grow your market by 24 percent, even when it only means and increased number of downloads of the OS that provides the virtualisation role.
–
Wil

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