Comments on: Would you buy a hypervisor from these guys?

By: Eric Gray

Eric Gray — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 16:46:29 +0000

Microsoft customers can opt to buy “Software Assurance” with the products, which is a type of subscription for upgrades. Pay-per-incident is typically what everyone expects from them, but it is possible to buy more sophisticated support packages, too.

By: VMware fires back against Microsoft’s mythbusters - SearchServerVirtualization Blog

Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:27:25 +0000

[...] up a Microsoft research paper from January that shows the limitations to Hyper-V performance. And Eric Gray wins the prize for Funniest Response with this [...]

By: Vladan

Vladan — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 14:12:12 +0000

You are absolutely right Bobbi… ! Microsoft does not include ANY support when you buy the virtualization solution from them. Besides, the quality is there with VMware.

And what about the support for the alternative Operating systems. VMware supports over 60 OS!!!

Microsoft starts to support Linux. (with some troubles with mouse stuck inside the VMs… -:) ).

By: Bobbi Perrin

Bobbi Perrin — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 02:32:54 +0000

The other thing that seems to escape being talked about is VMware’s prices for ESX Server / VI3 also contain costs of support contracts. How come that is never discussed? VMware’s price model is not just charging for the hypervisor but also includes a year of support based upon what type of support contract you choose to buy. Does Microsoft’s price model for Hyper-V / SCVMM contain a year’s worth of technical support or is that extra?

By: Eric Gray

Eric Gray — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:36:02 +0000

Russ, brilliant analysis. Thanks for pointing that out, very true -- if you want to determine the real cost there are plenty of things to consider. That is why VMware has the Cost per Application Calculator, and why it quickly debunks the "1/3 the cost" myth.

By: Russ

Russ — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:24:35 +0000

There is a video on the same page by the same guys where they claim “Hyper-V is a 1/3 of the cost of VMWare” and they work that out by comparing VI3 against Win2k8 Ent + SCVMM.

Then in this video they say comparing VMWare against “just” Hyper-V and SCVMM isn’t fair and you need to add the whole System Centre stack in to allow a like for like comparison. If you do that, I wonder if it’s still 1/3 of the price of VI

By: Eric Gray

Eric Gray — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:06:41 +0000

Jason, you are right, and if we don’t raise awareness, these lies go unchallenged. Thanks for doing your part.

By: Microsoft Mythbusters creating myths themself « UP2V

Microsoft Mythbusters creating myths themself « UP2V — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:51:46 +0000

[...] Eric Gray of vCritical has a comment on the video on his website http://www.vcritical.com/2009/04/would-you-buy-a-hypervisor-from-these-guys/ [...]

By: Jason Boche

Jason Boche — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 12:37:57 +0000

The video is a bit on the corny side but to the unsuspecting customer, they do sound convincing. Unfortunately most of it is hogwash and they are not doing any favors for customers of either virtualization camp by lying. They are purposely deceiving customers. That’s lying in my book.