Comments on: Yes, NIC teaming is not unsupported http://www.vcritical.com/2009/02/yes-nic-teaming-is-not-unsupported/ Informed Virtualization Criticism Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:54:25 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Parrotlover77 http://www.vcritical.com/2009/02/yes-nic-teaming-is-not-unsupported/#comment-9869 Parrotlover77 Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:42:06 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=162#comment-9869 Wow, a colleague sent me to this site because he wanted me to see some comparisons between Hyper-V and ESX. So far, all I see is a lot of self-fellating about how proud VMWare is of VMWare and a lot of misinformation about Hyper-V. Thanks for reinforcing my opinion (a good one) of Hyper-V. I have loved it so far. No issues. And if I run into an issue, I know that Microsoft is just a free phone call away since I work for a Gold Partner. Wow, a colleague sent me to this site because he wanted me to see some comparisons between Hyper-V and ESX. So far, all I see is a lot of self-fellating about how proud VMWare is of VMWare and a lot of misinformation about Hyper-V. Thanks for reinforcing my opinion (a good one) of Hyper-V. I have loved it so far. No issues. And if I run into an issue, I know that Microsoft is just a free phone call away since I work for a Gold Partner.

]]> By: Eric Gray http://www.vcritical.com/2009/02/yes-nic-teaming-is-not-unsupported/#comment-9420 Eric Gray Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:54:25 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=162#comment-9420 Fine, but the point is that Microsoft would refer customers to Broadcom if there are any issues. ESX, on the other hand, is designed with NIC teaming in mind and it simply works out of the box. VMware support won't tell customers to stop using NIC teaming if there is a network issue. See the difference? Fine, but the point is that Microsoft would refer customers to Broadcom if there are any issues.

ESX, on the other hand, is designed with NIC teaming in mind and it simply works out of the box. VMware support won’t tell customers to stop using NIC teaming if there is a network issue.

See the difference?

]]> By: Amr Nassar http://www.vcritical.com/2009/02/yes-nic-teaming-is-not-unsupported/#comment-9416 Amr Nassar Thu, 07 Jan 2010 00:47:18 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=162#comment-9416 Broadcom Supports the following with Hyper-V: Smart Load Balancing and Failover (configured only for one primary and one standby adapter) Link Aggregation (802.3AD) Generic Trunking (FEC/GEC)/802.3AD-Draft Static Patrick has more details on each of these in the post Installation order should be as follows: 1. Add the Hyper-V role 2. Install the NIC Teaming software 3. Configure the team 4. Configure virtual networking within Hyper-V Broadcom Supports the following with Hyper-V:

Smart Load Balancing and Failover (configured only for one primary and one standby adapter)
Link Aggregation (802.3AD)
Generic Trunking (FEC/GEC)/802.3AD-Draft Static
Patrick has more details on each of these in the post
Installation order should be as follows:
1. Add the Hyper-V role
2. Install the NIC Teaming software
3. Configure the team
4. Configure virtual networking within Hyper-V

]]> By: Eric Gray http://www.vcritical.com/2009/02/yes-nic-teaming-is-not-unsupported/#comment-8156 Eric Gray Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:24:56 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=162#comment-8156 Could you post a reference for that? Sounds interesting, but kind of hard to believe. Could you post a reference for that? Sounds interesting, but kind of hard to believe.

]]> By: Virtualization Master http://www.vcritical.com/2009/02/yes-nic-teaming-is-not-unsupported/#comment-8154 Virtualization Master Sat, 03 Oct 2009 18:31:32 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=162#comment-8154 What make it more fun is that Microsoft does not support NIC teaming when Clustering Windows 2008 Servers including when running Hyper-V. As most environment running Hyper-V will be clustered you will just be out of luck on NIC teaming :). What make it more fun is that Microsoft does not support NIC teaming when Clustering Windows 2008 Servers including when running Hyper-V. As most environment running Hyper-V will be clustered you will just be out of luck on NIC teaming :) .

]]> By: Eric Gray http://www.vcritical.com/2009/02/yes-nic-teaming-is-not-unsupported/#comment-395 Eric Gray Mon, 02 Mar 2009 18:12:08 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=162#comment-395 Awesome! Please don't tell anyone else -- it could cause an immediate shift from ESX to Hyper-V. Awesome! Please don’t tell anyone else — it could cause an immediate shift from ESX to Hyper-V.

]]> By: Deathscythe http://www.vcritical.com/2009/02/yes-nic-teaming-is-not-unsupported/#comment-382 Deathscythe Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:37:28 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=162#comment-382 Hey!!, Did you know that you can configure HP NIC Teaming on Server Core just tiping in the console hpteam.cpl!!!!, it's sooooo easy, more than ESX. Touche Hey!!, Did you know that you can configure HP NIC Teaming on Server Core just tiping in the console hpteam.cpl!!!!, it’s sooooo easy, more than ESX. Touche

]]> By: Eric Gray http://www.vcritical.com/2009/02/yes-nic-teaming-is-not-unsupported/#comment-357 Eric Gray Wed, 18 Feb 2009 06:17:04 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=162#comment-357 Scott, thanks providing those links. Good articles -- the comments are especially interesting. (I think I can tell which of the commenters have never actually used ESX. ;-) Scott, thanks providing those links. Good articles — the comments are especially interesting. (I think I can tell which of the commenters have never actually used ESX. ;-)

]]> By: Scott Lowe http://www.vcritical.com/2009/02/yes-nic-teaming-is-not-unsupported/#comment-356 Scott Lowe Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:19:03 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=162#comment-356 Eric, it's nice to see a bit more attention being paid to this particular issue. I first highlighted this issue last year after Tech-Ed 2008: http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/06/12/significant-networking-problem-with-hyper-v/ http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/06/23/more-on-hyper-v-and-nic-teaming/ I'm not so sure I agree with Microsoft's stance on this; just because they "left it to the vendors" for regular Windows doesn't mean that same approach will work with the hypervisor. Just as virtualization changes the way things work, vendors have to change how they work to accommodate virtualization. Eric, it’s nice to see a bit more attention being paid to this particular issue. I first highlighted this issue last year after Tech-Ed 2008:

http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/06/12/significant-networking-problem-with-hyper-v/
http://blog.scottlowe.org/2008/06/23/more-on-hyper-v-and-nic-teaming/

I’m not so sure I agree with Microsoft’s stance on this; just because they “left it to the vendors” for regular Windows doesn’t mean that same approach will work with the hypervisor. Just as virtualization changes the way things work, vendors have to change how they work to accommodate virtualization.

]]> By: SQL Server and Cloud Links for the Week | Brent Ozar - SQL Server DBA http://www.vcritical.com/2009/02/yes-nic-teaming-is-not-unsupported/#comment-342 SQL Server and Cloud Links for the Week | Brent Ozar - SQL Server DBA Fri, 13 Feb 2009 13:32:28 +0000 http://www.vcritical.com/?p=162#comment-342 [...] Network teaming in Hyper-V - put two network cards in a server, set them up for teaming, and you’re protected from network failures like unplugged patch cables or switch failures, right? Not so much.  This is an art (not a science) in physical servers already, and it gets worse with virtual servers. [...] [...] Network teaming in Hyper-V – put two network cards in a server, set them up for teaming, and you’re protected from network failures like unplugged patch cables or switch failures, right? Not so much.  This is an art (not a science) in physical servers already, and it gets worse with virtual servers. [...]

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